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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Let me think for a second... OK, so first adoption is a slightly unrealistic option for dealing with the unwanted babies. There are millions of kids living in orphan homes, or with foster parents, who are not wanted and who cannot find a permanent home. There may also be many people who can&#039;t have kids who want them, so they look to adoption, but that still is not enough. Most people who adopt take on only one child, at most three. Considering how many abortions occur every year, there would be an exponential increase in the number of children in our orphanage/foster child system. I do not think the system would be able to handle that.

Also, why is the woman the one who deserves punishment for &quot;spreading her legs&quot; and becoming pregnant when, in most cases, it takes two people to tango, and become pregnant? The man is guilty as well, and should also have to &quot;live with the consequences of his actions.&quot; That being said, I think I should state that in the case of counseling over abortion, the woman, the man, and the doctor should all talk about the options, but, as the woman is the one whose body has had to look after the child, the woman should have the ultimate decision.

I have many other points I could make about abortion, but I am procrastinating on important work, so I will end after saying one last thing: I support women choosing whether they want a baby or not, with input from the father. However, I would never have an abortion personally because that&#039;s me. I would rather raise the baby, although I would love to just not get pregnant. One thing I think everyone should consider carefully before stating whether they are &quot;pro-life&quot; or &quot;pro-choice&quot; is: If you knew before you were born that you were not wanted, would you rather never have to experience that feeling in life, in either an orphanage or with parents who hate you or ignore you, or would you rather die? I have been raised by someone who was so against abortions, she had seven kids. I think that was irresponsible and selfish of my mother, and while I am grateful for the opportunity to develop these opinions, I would never have missed them if I had not been born.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Let me think for a second&#8230; OK, so first adoption is a slightly unrealistic option for dealing with the unwanted babies. There are millions of kids living in orphan homes, or with foster parents, who are not wanted and who cannot find a permanent home. There may also be many people who can&#8217;t have kids who want them, so they look to adoption, but that still is not enough. Most people who adopt take on only one child, at most three. Considering how many abortions occur every year, there would be an exponential increase in the number of children in our orphanage/foster child system. I do not think the system would be able to handle that.</p>
<p>Also, why is the woman the one who deserves punishment for &#8220;spreading her legs&#8221; and becoming pregnant when, in most cases, it takes two people to tango, and become pregnant? The man is guilty as well, and should also have to &#8220;live with the consequences of his actions.&#8221; That being said, I think I should state that in the case of counseling over abortion, the woman, the man, and the doctor should all talk about the options, but, as the woman is the one whose body has had to look after the child, the woman should have the ultimate decision.</p>
<p>I have many other points I could make about abortion, but I am procrastinating on important work, so I will end after saying one last thing: I support women choosing whether they want a baby or not, with input from the father. However, I would never have an abortion personally because that&#8217;s me. I would rather raise the baby, although I would love to just not get pregnant. One thing I think everyone should consider carefully before stating whether they are &#8220;pro-life&#8221; or &#8220;pro-choice&#8221; is: If you knew before you were born that you were not wanted, would you rather never have to experience that feeling in life, in either an orphanage or with parents who hate you or ignore you, or would you rather die? I have been raised by someone who was so against abortions, she had seven kids. I think that was irresponsible and selfish of my mother, and while I am grateful for the opportunity to develop these opinions, I would never have missed them if I had not been born.</p>
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		<title>By: austin nedved</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-193</link>
		<dc:creator>austin nedved</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see.. you&#039;ve said &#039;abortion is a medical procedure&#039;. Assisted suicide is a &#039;medical procedure&#039;, as are other atrocities such as female circumcision.  If you have a right to abortion, you should have a right to suicide (its a medical procedure, it must be OK!).  If you can &#039;remove the fetus&#039;, you should be able to &#039;remove the heart&#039;. It&#039;s your body, right? Who am i to impose my morality on you?  I must be a religious fanatic who, for some reason, wants to force you to follow his religion.

If there are millions of unwanted children in orphanages, and it was better that they had been killed, we should go in and &#039;abort&#039; them all.  &quot;Every child a wanted child.. and if not wanted, killed!&quot;  What do i propose we do with all the &#039;unwanted&#039; children in orphanages? kill them, what else?!

There is no rational reason to say that &#039;the fetus isn&#039;t human&#039; until it can survive outside the womb.  You might as well say that it isn&#039;t human until it can feed itself.

During the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Douglas said &#039;if you don&#039;t want a slave, don&#039;t have one&#039;.  Lincoln famously replied &#039;no one has the right to do what is wrong&#039;.  If abortion is not wrong, nothing is.

NO ONE has the right to do whatever they want with their body, as is evidenced by laws against bigamy, prostitution, adult incest and selling your organs.  Thats really nice that you did a &#039;lot of soul-searching&#039; before coming to your conclusion, but i don&#039;t see how that is relevant in the least.  Abortion is murder; an unborn child (a &#039;fetus&#039; if you want to feel better about your position) is as human as you or me.  If it isn&#039;t human, then what the hell is it?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see.. you&#8217;ve said &#8216;abortion is a medical procedure&#8217;. Assisted suicide is a &#8216;medical procedure&#8217;, as are other atrocities such as female circumcision.  If you have a right to abortion, you should have a right to suicide (its a medical procedure, it must be OK!).  If you can &#8216;remove the fetus&#8217;, you should be able to &#8216;remove the heart&#8217;. It&#8217;s your body, right? Who am i to impose my morality on you?  I must be a religious fanatic who, for some reason, wants to force you to follow his religion.</p>
<p>If there are millions of unwanted children in orphanages, and it was better that they had been killed, we should go in and &#8216;abort&#8217; them all.  &#8220;Every child a wanted child.. and if not wanted, killed!&#8221;  What do i propose we do with all the &#8216;unwanted&#8217; children in orphanages? kill them, what else?!</p>
<p>There is no rational reason to say that &#8216;the fetus isn&#8217;t human&#8217; until it can survive outside the womb.  You might as well say that it isn&#8217;t human until it can feed itself.</p>
<p>During the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Douglas said &#8216;if you don&#8217;t want a slave, don&#8217;t have one&#8217;.  Lincoln famously replied &#8216;no one has the right to do what is wrong&#8217;.  If abortion is not wrong, nothing is.</p>
<p>NO ONE has the right to do whatever they want with their body, as is evidenced by laws against bigamy, prostitution, adult incest and selling your organs.  Thats really nice that you did a &#8216;lot of soul-searching&#8217; before coming to your conclusion, but i don&#8217;t see how that is relevant in the least.  Abortion is murder; an unborn child (a &#8216;fetus&#8217; if you want to feel better about your position) is as human as you or me.  If it isn&#8217;t human, then what the hell is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I think that abortion is a serious medical procedure and should be consider carefully by the mother carrying the fetus, or, depends on how far along she is in her pregnancy, the child.  
My personal moral belief is this: if the pregnancy is less than 3 months, then it still consider a fetus, but if it&#039;s already been 6 or 7 months, at which point the child has nearly done developing inside the womb, then it should be consider a separate entity from the mother, and the mother should not get abortion at this time because it is kind of like murder, unless it concerns the health of the mother.  I also agree with you that mothers who give birth to child when they have no mean of take care for that child only brings more suffering to another life, I would rather terminate the pregnancy in its early stage before the child develop in the womb.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I think that abortion is a serious medical procedure and should be consider carefully by the mother carrying the fetus, or, depends on how far along she is in her pregnancy, the child.<br />
My personal moral belief is this: if the pregnancy is less than 3 months, then it still consider a fetus, but if it&#8217;s already been 6 or 7 months, at which point the child has nearly done developing inside the womb, then it should be consider a separate entity from the mother, and the mother should not get abortion at this time because it is kind of like murder, unless it concerns the health of the mother.  I also agree with you that mothers who give birth to child when they have no mean of take care for that child only brings more suffering to another life, I would rather terminate the pregnancy in its early stage before the child develop in the womb.</p>
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		<title>By: joanna</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>joanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these comments I find quite shocking, and totally naive. So, women shouldn&#039;t spread their legs. Where is the responsibility of the man in all of this? Perhaps men should abstain from sex if they don&#039;t want children. Maybe antiabortionist would manage to convince men or their responsibility in all of thes. Most of these comments, shockingly are from women, who seem to think it is the woman who is solely the one to blame.

I, have been lucky enough never to be put in the position of having to make the choice of having an abortion. But like Summer Ludwig, I agree that it is better to have a wanted child than to have a child born unwanted and subject to abuse. If children are a gift from GOd, I would barely be able to recognise that fact, from the horrific treatment that some living children receive. And for most women, it is not an easy choice.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these comments I find quite shocking, and totally naive. So, women shouldn&#8217;t spread their legs. Where is the responsibility of the man in all of this? Perhaps men should abstain from sex if they don&#8217;t want children. Maybe antiabortionist would manage to convince men or their responsibility in all of thes. Most of these comments, shockingly are from women, who seem to think it is the woman who is solely the one to blame.</p>
<p>I, have been lucky enough never to be put in the position of having to make the choice of having an abortion. But like Summer Ludwig, I agree that it is better to have a wanted child than to have a child born unwanted and subject to abuse. If children are a gift from GOd, I would barely be able to recognise that fact, from the horrific treatment that some living children receive. And for most women, it is not an easy choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this is an old comment thread but I had something else that I wanted to say. If your god is giving babies away as gifts he really has a lot of issues. Shouldn&#039;t there be some sort of screening process? What about the crackhead with 7 kids does she really need another &quot;gift&quot;?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is an old comment thread but I had something else that I wanted to say. If your god is giving babies away as gifts he really has a lot of issues. Shouldn&#8217;t there be some sort of screening process? What about the crackhead with 7 kids does she really need another &#8220;gift&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, that would be weird. I&#039;m sure that children would much rather be born into a family that didn&#039;t want them, be abused or neglected, or who knows what else just so their mother could be properly punished for having sex. Hmmmm, kids as a punishment, doesn&#039;t make much sense to me.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, that would be weird. I&#8217;m sure that children would much rather be born into a family that didn&#8217;t want them, be abused or neglected, or who knows what else just so their mother could be properly punished for having sex. Hmmmm, kids as a punishment, doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://wwjv4.com/republicans/huckabee-says-abortion-is-like-holocaust-52#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Women who have sex willing they shouldn&#039;t if they don&#039;t want kids they have to take responsabilty for what they do.  kids don&#039;t ask for women to spread there legs and get pregnant

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Women who have sex willing they shouldn&#8217;t if they don&#8217;t want kids they have to take responsabilty for what they do.  kids don&#8217;t ask for women to spread there legs and get pregnant</p>
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		<title>By: Summer Ludwig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Summer Ludwig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I think you are so naive. There are millions of unwanted children in the world already, who takes care of them? Don&#039;t fool yourself into thinking that adoption is an actual viable answer to unwanted pregnancy. It is in some cases but not all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I think you are so naive. There are millions of unwanted children in the world already, who takes care of them? Don&#8217;t fool yourself into thinking that adoption is an actual viable answer to unwanted pregnancy. It is in some cases but not all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are so wrong because children are a gift from GOD and we are suppose to protect them from harm.  Those pictures are so bad that it made me cry.  If women can&#039;t take care of them than they can give them to people who would love them.  There is a lot of couples that can&#039;t have kids that want them

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are so wrong because children are a gift from GOD and we are suppose to protect them from harm.  Those pictures are so bad that it made me cry.  If women can&#8217;t take care of them than they can give them to people who would love them.  There is a lot of couples that can&#8217;t have kids that want them</p>
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		<title>By: alexis</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alright well lets see. you say that abortions are murder right.. well hmm are you going to take care of all these babies sweet heart? When women are raped and they become pregnant are you going to make them wake up every day and see that child and think of what happened to them, would that make you sleep better at night. 
When teens are not financially stable or responsible to raise a child you want them to keep it? that makes sense, so that way the child isnt given the opportunity of great potential by society, they will have born into poverty and society will close their eyes.
although i think adoption is a very good option i think abortion should be an option left to the women.  
 I hate when i see Pro-life people outside of the abortion clinics on tv or anywhere.. does anybody tell them that they dont have the riht to be standing out there expressing how they feel. no, they have the freedom of assembly, freedom of petion, and freedom of speech no one takes that away from them therefor i beleive we should not take away the right for a women to choose what she wants to do. 
 According to our state laws a fetus is not even considered a citizen until the take their first breath of air... inside the womb a fetus never takes in air, so according to the law it is not murder.
So I think before you speak you need to think of the right that enables you to do that.. what would you do if someone took away your right to choose what you could say..

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alright well lets see. you say that abortions are murder right.. well hmm are you going to take care of all these babies sweet heart? When women are raped and they become pregnant are you going to make them wake up every day and see that child and think of what happened to them, would that make you sleep better at night.<br />
When teens are not financially stable or responsible to raise a child you want them to keep it? that makes sense, so that way the child isnt given the opportunity of great potential by society, they will have born into poverty and society will close their eyes.<br />
although i think adoption is a very good option i think abortion should be an option left to the women.<br />
 I hate when i see Pro-life people outside of the abortion clinics on tv or anywhere.. does anybody tell them that they dont have the riht to be standing out there expressing how they feel. no, they have the freedom of assembly, freedom of petion, and freedom of speech no one takes that away from them therefor i beleive we should not take away the right for a women to choose what she wants to do.<br />
 According to our state laws a fetus is not even considered a citizen until the take their first breath of air&#8230; inside the womb a fetus never takes in air, so according to the law it is not murder.<br />
So I think before you speak you need to think of the right that enables you to do that.. what would you do if someone took away your right to choose what you could say..</p>
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