This one is “Should you Kill the Fat Man?“. I highly recommend playing it now before reading any further because if you keep reading what I say will ruin it for you.

Seriously, go play it.

Go. I’ll wait.

Ok, glad you came back. Trust me you will be happy to have played it before reading this because you may now be thinking the same thing I was at the end. You did play it right? Ok, I trust you.

It starts of by asking the following questions.

• Question 1: Torture, as a matter of principle, is always morally wrong. ( I say True )
• Question 2: The morality of an action is determined by whether, compared to the other available options, it maximizes the sum total of happiness of all the people affected by it. ( I say False because this is a silly way to determine morality ).
• Question 3: It is always, and everywhere, wrong to cause another person’s death – assuming they wish to stay alive – if this outcome is avoidable.( I say False – To save the lives of others etc. )
• Question 4: If you can save the lives of innocent people without reducing the sum total of human happiness, and without putting your own life at risk, you are morally obliged to do so. ( True Again )

Alright, now that they have nailed down your moral absolutes ( silly concept but it’s their game ) they start by presenting some scenarios that are meant to challenge them. I fail the first one which is …

Scenario Part 1:

The brakes of the train that Casey Jones is driving have just failed. There are five people on the track ahead of the train. There is no way that they can get off the track before the train hits them. The track has a siding leading off to the right, and Casey can hit a button to direct the train onto it. Unfortunately, there is one person stuck on the siding. Casey can turn the train, killing one person; or he can allow the train to continue onwards, killing five people.

Should he turn the train (1 dead); or should he allow it to keep going (5 dead)?

I say yes, he should turn the train, effectively saving 4 lives. The game sees this as a contradiction to my belief that causing death is always wrong. Alright, whatever. It is still wrong and I would feel terrible if I were actually in this situation. I would have felt worse doing nothing and letting more die though.  This is why moral absolutes are silly.

Scenario Part 2:

Marty Bakerman is on a footbridge above the train tracks. He can see that the train approaching the bridge is out of control, and that it is going to hit five people who are stuck on the track just past the bridge. The only way to stop the train is to drop a heavy weight into its path. The only available heavy enough weight is a (very) fat man, who is also watching the train from the footbridge. Marty can push the fat man onto the track into the path of the train, which will kill him but save the five people already on the track; or he can allow the train to continue on its way, which will mean that the five will die.

Should he push the fat man onto the track (1 dead); or allow the train to continue (5 dead)?

Here, even though the math is the same the action is very different. The first situation involved making a horrible situation a little less horrible and doing everything possible to save lives. This one is just murdering some hapless bystander to save other hapless bystanders. I chose not to murder the fat man and moved on to the next part.

Scenario Part 3:

Okay so this scenario is identical to the preceding scenario but with one crucial difference. This time Marty Bakerman knows with absolute certainty that the fat man on the bridge is responsible for the failure the train’s brakes: upset by train fare increases, he sabotaged the brakes with the intention of causing an accident. As before, the only way to stop the train and save the lives of the five people already on the track is to push the fat saboteur off the bridge into the path of the train.

Should Marty push the fat saboteur onto the track (1 dead); or allow the train to continue (5 dead)?

This one was a little bit harder. First off I don’t support the death penalty as a punishment doled out by the state after the criminal is safely out of society. I do however have little problem when criminals are killed in the act or while evading arrest. It’s not a contradiction, its a matter of practicality, safety to society, and necessity.

Anyhow, I chose to Push the fat saboteur onto the track. In this case the criminal was still a danger to society and if his crime results in his own death then I think I can sleep just fine. The game agrees and we move on.

Scenario Part 4

Should you torture the fat man?

The fat man, having avoided being thrown in front of the runaway train, has been arrested, and is now in police custody. He states that he has hidden a nuclear device in a major urban centre, which has been primed to explode in 24 hours time. The following things are true:

1. The bomb will explode in 24 hours time.
2. It will kill a million people if it explodes.
3. If bomb disposal experts get to the bomb before it explodes, there’s a chance it could be defused.
4. The fat man cannot be tricked into revealing the location of the bomb, nor is it possible to appeal to his better nature, nor is it possible to persuade him that he was wrong to plant the bomb in the first place.
5. If the fat man is tortured, then there is a 75% chance that he will give up the bomb’s location.
6. If the fat man does not reveal the location, the bomb will explode, and a million people will die: there is no other way of finding out where the bomb is located.

Should the fat man be tortured in the hope that he will reveal the location of the nuclear device?

I couldn’t even answer this stupid ass question. What? Torture is really the only way we’re getting the information? Was this written by a Republican? They think the torture has a 75% chance of success, in under 24 hours, against a hardened criminal. You know what the real chance of success of getting actionable information using only torture when the subject knows they only have to keep you busy for 24 hours is? ZERO! None! Fuck all.

So to play this game I have to make a moral choice based on some republican’s Jack Bauer bedroom fantasy, I stopped playing at this point and chose option #3 and called the psychic hot-line because in reality their advice would be just a good as any information gained through torture.

Today though I wanted to come out and express my overwhelming surprise and joy that Prop 8 has been struck down.  Read more about it over at the Bilerico Project.  I also wanted to point out that while I am very happy about this development it still pisses me off that in 2010 we have to hope for court rulings to ensure American citizens get equal rights.  What the fuck.  Anyhow, great news and I highly recommend reading Judge Walker’s Opinion.

Go Forth and Prosper

President Barack Obama is being targeted by some on the right for being soft on crime after pardoning a Turkey yesterday.  While this was the first pardon of his short presidency some worry that it sets a a dangerous precedent.  How after all, they wonder, will he stand up to terrorists when he can’t even take down common poultry.

Sarah Palin shows how it should be done.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTi7P_1aoTc[/youtube]

Have a great Thanksgiving everyone.

Think this guy has ever read the constitution?

Teabaggers across the nation are gathering in large groups of 1000 or sometimes 2000 to protest paying taxes today.  If your like me your probably confused that people would protest taxes given that Barack Obama will be lowering taxes on 95% of all Americans.  So as a public service to the teabaggers everywhere here is a video explaining exactly why they are pissed off.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TiQCJXpbKg[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vsl6za1Zspw[/youtube]

This post reminds me that I need to clean up this blog and get back to work.  Even with most of the bums kicked out of Congress and a wonderful president there is so much work to do.

I had planned a long post on why Summer and I have decided that we will continue our families Christmas traditions but instead I wanted to bring you some joy and happiness.  So today lets just enjoy this short video from CUTEzzz.com and be merry.  Politics be damned for one extended weekend were going to go and hang out with friends and family and have fun, no matter how much we dont enjoy it

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15bIIRexaI[/youtube]

Thanks CUTEzzz.com for the video!

I think whoever put this ad together did an excellent job.  Subtle, effective, and well thought out.  While I am personally not super anti-coal like some of my friends I do feel that the clean coal myth needs to be addressed.  My sincere hope is that as alternative ways to produce energy are perfected and implemented we will see less and less coal used.   Actually thats almost a near certanty as alternative energy is both cleaner and cheaper over the long run.

Anyhow, here is another video by the Reality Campaign.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdHuB7Ovl2o[/youtube]

Have a great Christmas everyone, I’ll see you again next week.

1. Participated in the Blasphemy Challenge.
2. Met at least one of the “Four Horsemen” (Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris) in person.
3. Created an atheist blog.
4. Used the Flying Spaghetti Monster in a religious debate with someone.
5. Gotten offended when someone called you an agnostic.
6. Been unable to watch Growing Pains reruns because of Kirk Cameron.
7. Own more Bibles than most Christians you know.
8. Have at least one Bible with your personal annotations regarding contradictions, disturbing parts, etc.
9. Have come out as an atheist to your family.
10. Attended a campus or off-campus atheist gathering.
11. Are a member of an organized atheist/Humanist/etc. organization.
12. Had a Humanist wedding ceremony.
13. Donated money to an atheist organization.
14. Have a bookshelf dedicated solely to Richard Dawkins.
15. Lost the friendship of someone you know because of your non-theism.
16. Tried to argue or have a discussion with someone who stopped you on the street to proselytize.
17. Hid your atheist beliefs on a first date because you didn’t want to scare him/her away.
18. Own a stockpile of atheist paraphernalia (bumper stickers, buttons, shirts, etc).
19. Attended a protest that involved religion.
20. Attended an atheist conference.
21. Subscribe to Pat Condell’s YouTube channel.
22. Started an atheist group in your area or school.
23. Successfully “de-converted” someone to atheism.
24. Have already made plans to donate your body to science after you die.
25. Told someone you’re an atheist only because you wanted to see the person’s reaction.
26. Had to think twice before screaming “Oh God!” during sex. Or you said something else in its place.
27. Lost a job because of your atheism.
28. Formed a bond with someone specifically because of your mutual atheism (meeting this person at a local gathering or conference doesn’t count).
29. Have crossed “In God We Trust” off of — or put a pro-church-state-separation stamp on — dollar bills.
30. Refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
31. Said “Gesundheit!” (or nothing at all) after someone sneezed because you didn’t want to say “Bless you!”
32. Have ever chosen not to clasp your hands together out of fear someone might think you’re praying.
33. Have turned on Christian TV because you need something entertaining to watch.
34. Are a 2^nd or 3^rd (or more) generation atheist.
35. Have “atheism” listed on your Facebook or dating profile — and not a euphemistic variant.
36. Attended an atheist’s funeral (i.e. a non-religious service).
37. Subscribe to an freethought magazine (e.g. Free Inquiry, Skeptic)
38. Have been interviewed by a reporter because of your atheism.
39. Written a letter-to-the-editor about an issue related to your non-belief in God.
40. Gave a friend or acquaintance a New Atheist book as a gift.
41. Wear pro-atheist clothing in public.
42. Have invited Mormons/Jehovah’s Witnesses into your house specifically because you wanted to argue with them.
43. Have been physically threatened (or beaten up) because you didn’t believe in God.
44. Receive Google Alerts on “atheism” (or variants).
45. Received fewer Christmas presents than expected because people assumed you didn’t celebrate it.
46. Visited The Creation Museum or saw Ben Stein’s Expelled just so you could keep tabs on the “enemy.”
47. Refuse to tell anyone what your “sign” is… because it doesn’t matter at all.
48. Are on a mailing list for a Christian organization just so you can see what they’re up to…
49. Have kept your eyes open while you watched others around you pray.
50. Avoid even Unitarian churches because they’re too close to religion for you.

Well I scored 10 out of 50, not very hardcore at all.  I guess thats to be expected as I dont think of myself as atheist.  Maybe Summer will score higher.

h/t Friendly Athiest (seriously just subscribe to his blog its great).